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obama. mr. boehner said he wanted to deal along the lines what the two men had negotiated, summer of 2011, in the fight over raising the debt ceiling. "you missed your opportunity on that," the president told him. cold. but what we know right now, what we know from that is that john boehner wishes he could go back in time, get in the time machine, go back to 2011, and get the deal that president obama offered him then. mr. boehner wants another bite at that 2011 deal, because back then, the president was offering to stop at $800 billion in new taxes. my prediction here right now is that in a few weeks or a few months, republicans are going to wish they could go back to 2012, right now, and get the deal president obama offered them a week ago, which only raised about $1.2 trillion in taxes. because here's what i think is going to happen now. if we get a small deal before we go over the fiscal cliff, either because harry reid and mitch mcconnell come to a deal in the senate, or because democrats jam the republicans in congress, it's mostly going to be about extending the bush tax cu
the senate. so what obama is saying, if harry reid and mcconnell do not get a deal, well, that means that a deal would signify that it is filibuster proof. they'd have a super majority. democrats have the majority so you would think why don't they just vote together, pass it and move on to the house, but the dare is that obama's saying do you really want to show to all of america, republican senators that you're going filibuster a bill and everybody's taxes will go up? how do you explain that when there are -- when there is a majority around who can fas? that's a pretty interesting dare that obama put out there. >> thank you, it's like a little school house rock on saturday afternoon here on msnbc. perry, if mitch mcconnell does make a deal, how does he sell that deal in kentucky and the reddest of red states, mind you? >> i think he can and the reason is, like i said, i think any deal he signs on to will be a deal 100, 120 house republicans will sign to. he's not going sign a deal by himself and he'll sign a deal that's acceptable to some conservatives and mitch mock connell has a h
. >> arthel: if negotiations fail or lawmakers don't like a final deal, president obama wants to move forward with a plan c. what's in that? >> it would focus on three key areas. keeping the tax cuts for those making $250,000 a year or less, extending unemployment benefits and delayed dramatic spending cuts until later next year. president obama says the u.s. cannot afford a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. >> fortunately congress can prevent it from happening if they act right now. i just had a good and constructive discussion with senate and house leadership about how to prevent this tax hike on the middle class. i'm optimistic we may still be able to reach an agreement that can pass both houses in time. >> the wild card is figuring out what it will take to get a final deal to pass in the house of representatives. they return tomorrow, probably around when we find out if the top two senators reached an agreement. >> gregg: mike emmanuel live in washington. thanks very much. be sure to watch fox news sunday tomorrow. chris wallace talks fiscal cliff with u.s. senators lindsey
boehner. white house and congressional leaders have until january 1 to lork out a budget deal. resident obama is in hawaii on udget dn. nancy cordes is there as well. nancy, good evening. nancy, goor: jeff, this would : sentially be a last-ditch effort to avert the fiscal ially be sources tell us that aides to the president have been in talks preliminary talks, with aides to senate majority leader harry elf who himself was here in hawaii this weekend for the funeral of senator daniel inouye. eid is now working, we're told, on a smaller package than the comprehensive deal than the president was working on with speaker boehner. than tmall package would prevent tax rates from rising for middle-class, perhaps cut some spending and tie up a few other loose ends. so far, though, senator reid has so fbeen in touch with republicans over this plan. blicans ovent and the first lady as you mentioned, are here in hawaii. th atte also attended senator inouye's funeral this weekend. this is the president's first real vacation, jeff, in about a year. real nut he's cutting it short, heading home later
. that is the strategy right now. president obama will be working with what ma jority leader reid trying to get something through. the president wanted a big deal given the time constraints and only six days left, he conceded to a big deal is probably not possible. the goal now is just to get a gap measure to prevent the steep tax hikes from kicking into effect and the deep spending cuts. right now that is the large goal. i can tell you that competence in lawmakers is dwindling according to the latest poll. 50% of americans believe that lawmakers will be able to prevent going-over the fiscal cliff. that is a drop from seven points from december 16th. consumer confidence in the lawmaker'sability to get something done. if we go over the cliff, it could have ramifications including leading the country back into a recession. >> can you tell me or do we know whether president obama spent any time on the phone with mitch mcconnell or john boehner or the republican leaders? that's a good question and has not happened during this holiday vacation. talks between the main players here are largely stalled. there ha
this is serious. it's been serious for months. we need to come together. president obama has a $4 trillion deal on the table that would be balanced in terms of increasing the tax rates on the wealthiest americans. significant spending cuts and has even proposed more -- several hundred billion in entitlement savings. if we can come together and put together a balanced agreement, then we can avoid this. and move on to focusing on the job creation and getting the economy turned around that we should all be working together towards. >> but whatever happens, would it be fair to say that you've got much bigger fish to fry, so to speak, in the new year? i mean, it's not going to be the grand bargain. there's going to be a lot of talk of entitlements, we were talking to tom cole and he's saying democrats just don't want to do what they need to do about cutting back spending. we've got to stop spending. >> my friend tom cole knows that's simply not true. we have $4 trillion deal that includes billions of dollars in spending cuts on the table from president obama that democrats have been willing and read
's no deal and inaction, there's a lot of leverage it would seem that president obama would have. all the bush era tax rates go away. polls suggest republicans will be blamed more than democrats with if we go over the curb so to speak. is there a real incentive here for democrats to say, let's just not make a deal today? >> i think the only incentives for democrats not to make a deal, to wait for us to go over the curb, to wait for us to repeal the bush tax cuts or moving into a lower level for republicans, so there's base saving for them. for democrats there's more leverage to ask for what i think are the important elements. unemployment insurance, stimulus spending and hopefully, an extension of the payroll tax. i would prefer us to postpone the status quo for two more years because what's important right now is to get the economy back in gear and getting the economy back in gear. >> you would extend? >> the fiscal cliff would happen like in 2014. >> so bush tax cuts for the top 2%? >> keep those. the whole shabang. what we need is more money to go to the economy to keep things aflo
probably blaming republicans for it, what is the rush for obama right now to do a deal? >> reporter: that is the suspicion that's shared by a lot of republicans taking it, steve, as almost an article of faith of three weeks, a month, that the president actually wants to go over the cliff and i'm not sure if that's true. i have no way of knowing if that's true. i kind of doubt it. if you look at it, the republicans lose a lot of leverage. they have painted themselves in to this corner. there's no denying that fact. john boehner obviously we know what happened last week. sifting through the wreckage of the plan "b." gone back to plan "a," a bill passed by the congress and extending tax cuts for everyone and sent to the senate. they don't expect the senate to take that. use that as a legislative vehicle and what's today? saturday. new year's eve is -- sorry. today's friday. too much holiday cheer. but come on. i mean -- >> he will be working the weekend. >> reporter: i am. oh my god. i don't want to get started on that. but anyway, you know, there's a lot at stake here. and, you know,
ducks in a row. look up on the screen we will put the most recent deals. just to remind everyone where we are at. if you look at spending cuts first, barack obama has basically moved about $325 billion on spending and speaker boehner, according to the last real public offer, has moved about $350 billion. i think it is fair to say had both moved relatively equally. but if you turned to tax increases, obama has already moved from, again the last public real offer $355 billion while boehner's moved only $150 billion. less than half. and then finally, and i want to go to you to unpack this. the stimulus money. this is not to be forgotten. we are in a recession. and many economists say that whatever else you do with long-term entitlement reform which is real, another real thing is growing the economy. obama has moved $250 billion. the number that boehner has moved on that stimulus is zero from the last final comprehensive offer. what do you make of that pacting that we are not mere the 50-yard line anymore? >> we also add that not only has boehner month moved, he can't get his own caucus to
to be led. just show us the plan. that was encouraging. that seemed like we were going to have a deal, no problem. obama won the election. he'll hand them a plan. he'll make some small changes. that's how congress works, of course. pass it and we'll be done. we'll go home for christmas. not so much. president obama did hand them a plan as treasury secretary tim geithner made a special trip all the way to john boehner's office on capitol hill. he delivered the plan to speaker boehner, a plan pretty much identical to the one president obama just won the election on. you might have thought that would have been leading, the problem would have been solved. not so much. >> flabbergasted. i looked at him, you can't be serious. i've just never seen anything like it. >> so when you said you wanted to be led, you just wanted a plan, that was a joke? so the white house agreed, then, no more leading, that was not what their partners in the house of representatives wanted. instead, white house and boehner entered into intense lengthy negotiations. and by the end of them they seemed really close to
financial crisis. whether it's a big deal or a small deal, president obama will he have something to sign in time? moments ago i spoke with democratic congressman elijah cummings. listen to what he had to say about the standstill. >> there is a sense of urgency. the problem is that we've got a group of tea party folk over in the house who basically has pretty much dictated what mr. boehner can agree to. boehner, who's a good guy who wants to make a deal, he really wants to make a deal, but he can't. >> all right. head to capitol hill. there's mike viqueira standing by for us. you know something else that representative cummings said. i just said you're standing by. it seems like even when they come back to d.c. they're going to be standing by. they don't seem to have much to do in the house right now. >> reporter: that's absolutely right. don't have anything to do in the house. for now they don't have anything to do in the senate, t.j. that's the thing. harry reid, mitch mcconnell, the two democratic and republican leaders respectively in the senate got back from that big white house pow
-term fiscal cliff deal done. we heard president obama on friday handed what we might call a bare bones plan c ahead of january first. extension of the bush tax cuts for those making $250,000 or less and an extension of unemployment benefits. while it could be a quick turn-around from that hawaiian vacation for president obama and congressional leaders, expectations they could be back in washington later this week, all eyes now on the senate where republicans are split on whether it's possible to make a deal with the obama white house. >> the president's statement is right. no one wants taxes to go up on the middle class. i don't want them to go up on anybody. i'm not in the majority of the united states senate. he is the president of the united states. >> when i listen to the president i think the president is eager to go over the cliff for political purposes. i think he sees a political victory at the bottom of the cliff. he gets all this additional tax revenue for new programs. he gets to cut the military which democrats have been calling for for years. and he gets to blame republicans for
're in in corner. they could have taken a deal, could have take an deal in the summer of 2011 which would have been more favorable to them. they didn't do either. >> if obama is coming out and from what we're hearing he's not making a real offer. he's coming out with $250,000 staying with what he had before christmas. he's playing hardball. if he came out and was talking about a $40,000 tlshg hold, we could say these parties may be close to promise but i don't see that right now. >> we're getting breaking news that the president will make a statement at 5:45 in the briefing room so we'll stay tuned for that. robert, help me out here. how can boehner stay as speaker when it seems like his knees get cut out from him every day? >> is there some dissension within the house republican ranks, richard? sure. to really challenge boehner, you have to have a challenger and there are a lot of people in the house republican conference who are frustrated with the speaker, but they're not willing to run against him. you have big names like eric cantor and kevin mccarthy, number two and three, they're not even ma
. chuck wants us to do a deal like obama care where you bring in both sides and you think about all the -- you know, all the ideas from the republicans, all the ideas -- and then you adopt a bipartisan plan. >> did you read "the wall street journal" over the weekends? >> i did. >> boehner says i've given you $800 billion. >> what did it remind you of? >> that's some caddie shack. where spalding walks up to the shack and said i want a cheese birg, milkshake and fries. and his grandfather says, you'll get nothing and you will like it. you know what it reminds me of? elections have consequences. i won. it's not a nice tack to the center where i'm going to govern for all of you. are you coming back? >> i'm going to. >> the jacket is coming off, though, right? >> christmas eve and i'm celebrating. as you know, we had the tree going this weekend with the lights on. >> that's so nice. there's one other thing i sought on that thing over the weekend that you brought us that i was going do -- oh,no. did you see mitt romney did not want to run? >> i saw that. that was in the boston globe. that
if they came to a deal in the next five days than i was by the roberts vote on obama care. there's no way these guys are going to come to a deal, and the reason is this. the president has got the upper hand, and his most important partner is the weakest person in this, which is john boehner. john boehner is on the verge of losing credibility with his caucus. he can't take a deal to his caucus that will pass without the help of nancy pelosi, which will pull the entire deal to the left. so what they have to do is they have to go over the cliff. we're just talking about politics, we're not talking about finances here. they have to go over the cliff. that strengthens boehner's hands because now everybody is paying a hell of a lot more taxes and people are blaming the republicans, and now boehner can go to the caucus and maybe get 200 and a few votes and then with nancy pelosi pick off a few democrats and make some kind of deal. having said that, the best thing for the country is never to come to a deal because ed rendell is right. as a former governor, we don't operate with big deficits. you
and obama want to come together on middle class rates. i think they'll make a deal in early january to extend some part. >> but are you saying this doesn't really hurt? if they go sometime next friday, nine days from now, will the market go down and come up or will it plunge? >> the republicans want to cut a deal before the cliff. >> i know that. but if this thing goes over the cliff, will there be term innocent damage to the economy like a new recession? >> republicans tell me they think if they can make a deal on rates early january the markets will fluctuate. >> i am hearing the markets have already reacted. >> for a couple days. couple days. >> yeah. >> i've heard another argument. a lot of people say, or at least people i've talked to, if they can't do it by the date, they can't count on anything gets done. it'll get worse every day. >> it has been for two years. >> let's look at isaacson. i've never heard him say anything before. this is the first quote i've heard in my life. some republicans have urged their colleagues to pass something before the end of the year. they don't
about the tax side of obama's offer. what he's asking for in terms of tax increases is not that radical, it's way less than if we don't reach a deal. contrary to what you may have heard, republicans want to raise taxes too. shocker, right? >> the superficial take on this, the argument between democrats and republicans is between democrats who love taxes, just want to tax everything. and republicans who totally grover norquist taxes, they hate them, that is not true. to a degree that kind of disturbs me, actually, the two parties mostly agree on keeping the bush tax cuts. up to $250,000 in income, which is a lot of income. republicans and democrats want to keep all the bush tax cuts. that's way more than 80% of all the bush tax cuts. they agree on all of that, no argument. where they disagree is democrats want to raise taxes on any income over 250,000. and they'll accept at this point 400,000. and republicans, though, this is what people don't always know, republicans want to raise taxes too, they want to raise them on poor people. they want to let the stimulus tax cuts expire. those are
on the phone in a few minutes. >>> unfortunately, we deal with incompetent. this afternoon president obama whim wil set down with congressional leaders at the white house for a last ditch effort to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. the hope is both sides can agree to a compromise to prevent the economy from sliding back into recession. judging from the rhetoric on capitol hill, there's a long way to go. here's the day on the hill. >> if we go over the cliff we'll be left with the knowledge that could have been prevented with a single vote in the republican-controlled house of representatives. the american people i don't think understand the house of representatives is operating without the house of representatives. it's being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker not allowing the vast majority of the house representatives to get what they want. >> we're coming up against a hard deadline here, and as i said, this is a conversation we should have had months ago. republicans aren't about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the e
are scrambling for a last minute deal. we have 35 hours and counting. here is more of president obama talking about the overall situation. >> what congress needs to do is to prevent taxes from going up for the vast majority of americans. and this was a major topic of discussion throughout the campaign. what i said was that we should keep taxes where they were for 98% of americans, 97% of small businesses. but, if we are serious about deficit reduction, make sure the wealthy are paying more and combine it with spending cuts and put the economy on a long term trajectory of growth. over the next 48 hours, my hope is people recognize that regardless of partisan differences, our priority has to be to make sure taxes on middle class families do not go up. that would hurt our economy badly. at a certain point, it is very important for republicans in congress to say we understand we are not going to get 100%. we are willing to compromise in a serious way to solve problems. >> give you the live picture. you are seeing the majority leader, harry reid. >> they will begin at 3:00. announce the business o
? then paradise lost. will president obama leave hawaii behind the day after christmas if a deal is in the works and the election hangover. new comments from one of mitt romney's sons that you might describe as puzzling. what do they really mean? and the gun battle rages on. new reports on why nothing may get done even after the sandy hook tragedy. >>> a massive tax hike and spending cuts -- republicans and democrats continue to point fingers in opposite directions, hinting that talks could go into the new year. >> are we going over the cliff? >> i believe we are, and i think the president is eager to go over the cliff for political purposes. he senses a victory at the bottom of the cliff. >> we only have nine days left here. when are we going to get serious about actual solutions? i would welcome john to tell me. he says he wants a solution. give us one, john. >> meanwhile, president obama is spending christmas in hawaii where he and the first lady attended the holiday memorial service for the late u.s. senator from daniel inouye. >> white house correspondent kristen welker. kristen, obviously
. the market doesn't seem to care. >> all the big deal, boehner and obama tried to do last year, still have to do that, simpson boles-type thing. >> by what the secretary of the treasury said yesterday. >> right. >> thank you for being here. >> bromance. a lot of fun. make sure you join us tomorrow. "squawk on the street" begins right now. >>> good thursday morning, welcome to "squawk on the street" live from the new york stock exchange, i'm carl kin ten nia with melissa lee, cramer and neighborer are off today but we are joined by dennis. good morning to you dennis, thanks for coming in. futures today, a lot to deal with as you probably know. the fiscal cliff headline watch continues. you just heard john kanas say the market not too concerned. futures up 21 points. decent data out of europe, we will talk about in a minute what a day for the asian markets again. also coming up. our road map begins at andrews air force base where the president arrives in a couple of hours, cutting his hawaiian vacation short to address the fiscal cliff s there really any hope in the last attempt? does the ma
's progress. >> president barack obama yesterday warning about the very real impact that fiscal cliff could have on this country's economy. prior to the president's statement, the gloomy outlook for a deal was evident on wall street. the dow fail 158 points or 1.2% to settle at 12,938. fifth straight day of decline on the street. i would like to bring in david nakamura of "the washington post" and david jackson of "usa today." how conscious are our leaders in d.c. of the ripple effect this could have and how conscious are consumers of what might be about to hit them? >> well, the white house is very conscious of it it. they may have the political advantage of this deal, but the fiscal cliff could tip the country back into a recession. consumers are worried they'll start to pick up on the news and once it hits their paychecks they'll definitely feel it. >> do you think the consumers are paying as close attention as we'd like to think that they are. i think they are even though it's holiday time and going back to businesses and i was at the white house when president obama had a series of bus
-ditch deal, and the house comes back for a rare sunday night session. yesterday afternoon in an exclusive interview, president obama sat down with me in the blue room of the white house to discuss the way forward and his priorities for a second term. >>> mr. president, welcome back to "meet the press." >> great to be here. thank you. >> the obvious question, are we going to go over the fiscal cliff? >> we'll find out in the next 48 hours what congress will decide to do. but i think it's important for the american people to understand exactly what this fiscal cliff is. it's actually not that complicated. the tax cuts that were introduced in 2001, 2003, 2010, those were extended, and they are all about to expire at the end of the year. so on midnight december 31, if congress doesn't act, then everybody's taxes go up. and for the average family, that could mean a loss of $2,000 in income. for the entire economy, that means consumers have a lot less money to make purchases, which means businesses are going to have a lot less customers, which means that they are less likely to hire, and the wh
itlowt.com. [ laughs ] hey! ncht >>> let me finish tonight with this. i have high hopes for president obama's second term. i have rying hopes for the reasonable republican party out there in the real world and ak churly deals with the real work of being big state governor, for example. so here we go. we've got to do something about guns, especially keeping guns from dangerous people. we have to do something about ir iran, yes, we have to. and we have to do something
of republicans that are weary of the -- agreeing to any deal because of a threat of a primary. a lot of the folks in the house chop from conservative districts. barack obama is a bad word. they don't want any association with them. how much of that do you think is a real issue here and how do you strategize around that to sort of try to -- lift off this label of being intrasigient. >> from the gop side there are a lot of members in congress that say they do not want to support any kind of tax increase at this point. that prefer to go over the cliff and debate it in january. because they know it would harm them come midterm. but the -- fact of the matter is that -- every conservative in washington understands that we don't have a taxing problem. we have a spending problem. while this issue of viding the fiscal cliff getting past this is not going to be an easy issue to fix. but it is not complicated. we cannot continue to overspend more than we take in. so we immediate to address the spending. more than anything i think the republicans are look agent what's not in their personal best interests but
's in both sides' best interest to get this done. they want a two-year deal because no one wants to keep running on this stuff. and most importantly, to president obama, he has a state of the union and an inauguration speech to give. he wants to work on his legacy, not on this. >> so what -- you just said that the republicans really did just play right into the hands of the democrats. is that what you said? >> well, i think they fumbled the ball a little bit in their negotiations. i think, for example, even the optics of it, having president obama back in washington today, and having congress still out, is not the right message to end. people right now feel that the republicans are the party of no, that they are the ones causing this, they are going to get blamed. the fact of the matter is, is that they are doing the fiscal responsible thing here and that's where they can hang their hat. is that they have to hold on for deficit spending, and they still have the debt ceiling to hold in their back pocket if they need to. >> so what would, if you had been advising boehner, what would you ad
the use of drone strikes by the obama administration, look to see companies launching drone war at home for deals to build unmanned aircraft for domestic use. the faa says there could be 30,000 uavs in u.s. skies by 2020. the teal group says domestic drones could be worth $89 billion over ten years, as everyone from homeland security to tmz wants permission to use them. >>> let's get some more insight on the defense skprkt how to play it as the fiscal cliff deadline grows closer. howard rubel is with jeffries. great to speak with you. and i guess key to understanding the impact on these individual stocks, as jane had pointed out in her piece, is to understand which programs might be protected, even with budget cuts that the industry is facing. the f-35, for instance, is one that might be protected. walk us through. which ones had the most protected streams of revenue? >> frankly, many of them do at the moment, because the pentagon has been very busy signing production contracts to get under the wire of the sequester. >> so, for instance, the general dynamics deal that was selling to the
's retiring, doesn't have a lot of the political pressures that others have. she said let's make a deal. her prediction, probably the right one, they're going to go home. suddenly once it passes, obama wim introduce his own package which will look like what he's proposing now, and they'll have nothing to do but accept it or else they'll get blamed for everything. >> can you recall a time in your life when you were aware of politics that encompasses, what, a couple of years, at least? a comparable level of incompetence in washington? >> the only thing i can think of is the last four years. i actually spent some of the time over the holidays for my sins reading bob woodward's book. and my overall reaction to all this is groundhog day. it's the same exact issues, some of the same players, same cautions of spending, entitlements, taxation, debt celling, what have you, nothing has changed. so what's so depressing to me is we've had four years or longer to wrestle with these issues. there's virtually been no signs on progress. here we are now with two more self-imposed ceilings. and increasingly,
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